Tips: EVE Online ISK per Hour Estimates

Everyone should be familiar with Altrue’s EVE Online Careers Chartwtd

but it isn’t at all clear what activities generate the most wealth per play interval, and how I can know if I’m doing something terribly wrong.

It is a terrible mistake to measure your success in EVE Online in wealth (ISK + the ISK value of “stuff”) per Hour. The correct measure is Fun per Hour, which puts PLEXing for ISK (rather than ISKing for PLEX) at the very top of the Fun per Hour meter for most players. That’s a topic for another post, however, and almost all players engage in some sort of PvE activity to fund their fun, and many (I hope) derive significant Fun per Hour from the effort. Of those who engage in in-game ISK earning, most choose mining and/or ratting.

If your measure of fun is ISK per hour, then you’ll want to find your own, better, more personalized answers than mine, but this is perhaps still a standard against which to compare your own income-generating activities.

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Tip: Don’t be salty, be salt

EVE isn’t designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world; it’s designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.


EVE is hard.

You will experience loss and frustration.

Don’t simply resign yourself to this reality, but embrace it as an opportunity for growth.

As a forum poster (sorry, lost your name) suggests: “Remember the help you receive. Forget the smacktalk. If you succeed in doing this, tell me how 🙂 Keep your old thankyou letters, throw away the ransom notes.”

How you handle loss and frustration is the single largest determinant of your success in building relationships, and your long-term enjoyment of New Eden.

Don’t be salty.

Be salt: Add flavor, and make people thirsty for more!

Tip: New does not mean bad or worthless

Total skill points don’t matter much. It is your level of skills relevant to the current situation that does. Yes, that does mean a 2 mil SP combat-oriented newbie could badly beat up a 60 mil SP industry-oriented veteran.

As a new player, focus on doing something well, and commit to building the skills (personal and skill points). You can be an awesome frigate pilot in a few weeks, and a solid cruiser pilot in a month or so, if you keep your focus.

Just because some character is just a few minutes old doesn’t mean he’s a newbie. Many people have alts. The reverse is also possible, people come back after very long breaks, and characters are sold. You could see year-old newbies around too.

Based upon Akita T’s golden rules for new players, originally published on the old forums.

Or, as Goon propaganda so elegantly puts it:


Tip: Where’s the trade hub?

Jita 4-4 Caldari Navy Assembly plant is your one-stop shop for purchases. Whatever you want, it’s there, and you will probably get the best instant-sell price there, too. What you want is probably available in Amarr. It probably isn’t in Dodixie, Hek, or Rens, sadly.


  • When you place your buy orders, consider using a reputable player-owned structure. You can save a fortune on fees and taxes. The Hauler’s Channel maintains a list of known good and bad structures here:
  • There is often lag in Jita and other trade hubs.
  • If your corp is war-decced, use a neutral alt to haul things in and out of trade hubs.

Caveat: We’re talking about retail here. If you’re doing regional trading, wholesale volume, etc, none of this applies, and you don’t need this tip anyway.

Tip: ISK isn’t everything

  • More expensive stuff is not always better stuff.
  • Slightly better stuff usually costs many times more as slightly worse stuff. Choose wisely.
  • T2 is usually cheaper and better than best named, but harder to fit. Sometimes it’s not better. Other times it’s not cheaper. And occasionally, neither cheaper nor better. Show Info and Variants->Compare are your best friends. Use it on all stuff you can.
  • Just having ISK doesn’t matter all that much, it’s making ISK that’s important.
  • If you bought your ISK (either “illegally” from some site, or from a valid source), expect to soon be parted with all of them.

Based upon Akita T’s golden rules for new players, originally published on the old forums.